http://runningtimes.com/forum Running Times Magazine Discussion Group en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:18:58 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.runningtimes.com/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg http://runningtimes.com/forum http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11248&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:39:24 GMT So, I'm scanning last year's local 5k turkey trot, and look what I find!

156.Dathan Ritzenheim Mahwah,NJ 19 M 21:53 7:03 132/890 M19-24:28/89 60.2% N/A
157.Craig Mopttram Westwood,NJ 17 M 21:53 7:03 133/890 M17-18:18/53 61.7% N/A
158.Bernard Lagat , 17 M 21:53 7:03 134/890 M17-18:19/53 61.7% N/A

Obviously, some local high school XC runners were having some fun! "Alan Webb" was a few rows down in the placing.

Too funny!

M
PS. Interestingly, the course record in my hometown 5k is 13:56 (yep, 13)!, while the 10k record is 29:xx! (Joe Lemay holds the 10k record - he's featured in Adv. Mar. by Pfitz.) ]]> Running Times Forum cruising http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11248 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11247&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:31:29 GMT I couldn't help but post this. I finished Dane's book this morning and just thought I would give it a plug. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. One of the reviewers said something to the effect that the story is told "lovingly." I thought that was an apt description.

Dane sets up the year (2006) pretty quickly in the beginning of the book, telling the reader how he was first introduced to running, taking us through other sports with which he had brushes. We read of his early experiences with the marathon distance and discover that at one time (a long time ago) he was actually a human runner.

He then launches into 52 consecutive race reports. It was fun to follow along as he made his way through the year. He also makes several interesting observations about the logistics and potential obstacles that could have stopped his progress (for example, on #50, the weekend before Christmas, he had two races to choose from. He chose Jacksonville. Good thing, because the alternative race in Washington state ended up being cancelled due to a winter storm.)

And, of course, there were the two marathons that we ran in common that year - Deadwood Mickelson (Dane, it's spelled with a "k" not an "h" :p) and New Mexico. There were also those marathons that he ran that year that I've run in other years. And then, there were descriptions of marathons that I now am motivated to run given his description of and experience with them.

It's been fun sharing the past few mornings with your book, Dane. It reminds us that there we can be capable of extraordinary things if we put our minds to it. Thanks. I heartily recommend the experience to others here. ]]> Running Times Forum n3103f http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11247 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11245&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:26:07 GMT In our back yard we have a small oval pond and in the center of it is a spherical ceramic fountain through which water bubbles out the top, covering... In our back yard we have a small oval pond and in the center of it is a spherical ceramic fountain through which water bubbles out the top, covering the ball and flowing into the pond. The water attracts birds, as one might guess, and this morning in the trees and around the yard was the largest flock of robins I've ever seen--hundreds, maybe a thousand birds. The lip of the pond is about 4 inches above the water level, and the ball is very slippery due to the running water and its smoothness, so there is no place for a small bird to stand to reach and drink the water (they move on to our nearby birdbath generally). However, for the first time since the fountain was installed, a bird managed to land on the very top of the ball, somehow hold on, and drink from the bubbling water. Taking counsel from an unknown Chinese sage, I did not tell him this was impossible while he was doing it. Quite a sight to see. Perhaps the message was, don't fear to try to do the impossible, as it might just be possible if you try hard enough and don't give up despite repeated failed attempts. And who knows--maybe you are that 1000th robin.

QOTD: See anything unusual recently on your runs or in general. Learn anything from it?

and today's run? ]]> Running Times Forum Anasazi http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11245 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11244&goto=newpost Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:42:32 GMT anyone use these? if so do you recommend them? i really like toe socks in general, they keep my toes apart. what's it like running with toe socks?

thanks in advance. ]]> Running Times Forum ms.tiff http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11244 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11243&goto=newpost Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:43:47 GMT I don't normally post non-running stuff here; however, this is worth posting. Have you seen this? It's not for the faint of heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC-pF3OHY1c

I would love to know if I am off base in thinking this is perhaps the most appalling sports display I've seen in a long, long time. ]]> Running Times Forum n3103f http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11243 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11242&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:26:11 GMT So with a nagging calf injury, I started to look into compression socks/ sleeves. On a past thread the dude doing a cartwheel at the marathon... So with a nagging calf injury, I started to look into compression socks/ sleeves. On a past thread the dude doing a cartwheel at the marathon finishline was wearing them. Not that I plan to pull off such a trick but I do wonder if there is any support (pun intended) from our forum runners.

And does anyone have a preference? Thinking about giving the Zensah sleeves a try:
http://www.zensah.com/womens-running-leg-sleeve.html ]]> Running Times Forum oh2run http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11242 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11241&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:05:43 GMT I will be shocked if there aren't any updates, since Richmond was run this past weekend. Last year there were probably 30 forumites who ran that race. We had an FE of 12 people ourselves. And Runango I think had a similar one. So, let me know...

Runner .................... Team .............. Time ................ Marathon

Marathon and Ultra Times affecting game:

None reported.

Marathon and Ultra Times not affecting game:

Steepler ...................NA ................ 2:51:10 ............. San Antonio Marathon
PoopedColt .................NA ................ 3:17:51 ............. Richmond Marathon



Results as of the end of Week 45, 2009:


Team 11 -- Masters of the Universe --- 59:26:07

Rbbmoose ---------BQ-- 2:41:09 -- New Jersey Marathon
Barkeep ----------BQ-- 2:49:45 -- Disney World Marathon
Shellaran --------BQ-- 2:47:26 -- Twin Cities Marathon
Dcv2002 ----------BQ-- 2:55:54 -- Chicago Marathon
Polar Bear -------BQ-- 2:58:20 -- St. George Marathon
Deuce ------------BQ-- 3:11:30 -- Lakefront Marathon
Sparkyrunner -----BQ-- 3:13:15 -- Columbus Marathon
HEB --------------BQ-- 3:14:46 -- Boston Marathon
SeoulRunner ------BQ-- 3:31:30 -- LIG Korea Open Marathon
Bandaloop ------------ 3:32:46 -- Boston Marathon
Pud ------------------ 3:33:25 -- JoongAng Marathon
MrSparky ---------BQ-- 3:41:02 -- Columbus Marathon
Blazer85 ---------BQ-- 3:44:34 -- St. George Marathon
HighHopes --------BQ-- 3:45:07 -- St. George Marathon
Anasazi ----------BQ-- 3:56:13 -- Boston Marathon
The Beast ------------ 4:08:50 -- Boston Marathon
FieroDan ------------- 5:40:35 -- Desert Classic Marathon

Team 10 -- X-Squad ------------------- 61:21:59

Cartman ----------BQ-- 2:31:40 -- Twin Cities Marathon [Fastest Man]
Butters ----------BQ-- 2:32:46 -- Baystate Marathon
Toad -------------BQ-- 2:34:32 -- Baystate Marathon
PalmBeachTim -----BQ-- 2:45:14 -- Miami Marathon
norcalrunningmo --BQ-- 3:01:40 -- Twin Cities Marathon
latinrunner ------BQ-- 3:13:45 -- Marathon split of a 50K
Christo23 ------------ 3:15:41 -- Boston Marathon
ErikMerk ------------- 3:20:31 -- Boston Marathon
Vitadolce --------BQ-- 3:22:31 -- Boston Marathon
PhillyRunninMan ------ 3:28:25 -- Boston Marathon
mr. runamaniac ------- 3:28:43 -- Reykjavik Marathon
395guy --------------- 3:36:22 -- Big Bear Lake Marathon
Doughboy ------------- 3:52:01 -- Mississippi Blues Marathon
Spin -------------BQ-- 3:58:58 -- New York City Marathon
runamaniac ----------- 4:19:10 -- Reykjavik Marathon

Team 4 -- Four Play Freakshow ------- 68:54:59

Holland207 -------BQ-- 2:38:02 -- Vermont City Marathon
IRunforBeer ------BQ-- 2:41:19 -- Twin Cities Marathon
Eddie2 -----------BQ-- 2:57:13 -- Napa Valley Two Cities Marathon -- Time Improvement
KevinR -----------BQ-- 2:58:00 -- Houston Marathon
Scuba Runner -----BQ-- 3:21:16 -- JoongAng Marathon
Campeona ---------BQ-- 3:23:01 -- Boston Marathon
Footloose --------BQ-- 3:35:18 -- Portland Marathon
jmb614 --------------- 3:42:38 -- Cleveland Marathon
WaterDog66 ----------- 3:42:32 -- Boston Marathon
shufflin_along ------- 3:43:47 -- Big Island International Marathon
Detroit runner ------- 3:44:09 -- Bayshore Marathon
Mrngrunner -------BQ-- 3:51:54 -- Top of Utah Marathon
Oh2Run --------------- 4:35:50 -- Athens Marathon

Team 9 -- T9! ----------------------- 72:53:05

corina -----------BQ-- 3:00:30 -- Green Bay Marathon [Fastest Woman]
Rob26.2 ----------BQ-- 2:59:04 -- Indianapolis Marathon
Shoeless ---------BQ-- 3:05:51 -- Ridge to Bridge Marathon
Tim --------------BQ-- 3:15:57 -- New Jersey Marathon
dbrunner ---------BQ-- 3:19:12 -- New York City Marathon
CTFunRun ---------BQ-- 3:27:48 -- Boston Marathon
Donnasaur ------------ 3:41:40 -- St. George Marathon
OldAndInTheWay ------- 3:44:18 -- Baltimore Marathon
mdsvt1 --------------- 3:51:20 -- OBX Marathon -- Time Improvement
truenorth --------BQ-- 3:58:14 -- Road2Hope Hamilton Marathon
Ed ------------------- 4:03:23 -- Boston Marathon
ladsh799 ------------- 4:25:48 -- Rotorua Marathon

Team 2 -- 2222222222's -------------- 73:52:20

CTookey -------------- 3:01:15 -- St. George Marathon
Rio --------------BQ-- 3:21:45 -- Boston Marathon
Dave A --------------- 3:30:32 -- National Marathon
Rogere -----------BQ-- 3:26:06 -- Twin Cities Marathon
Echoguy -------------- 3:45:35 -- Mardi Gras Marathon
Goodwine ------------- 3:34:55 -- Chicago Marathon
BigTex --------------- 3:45:53 -- Mardi Gras Marathon
Scott_runs ----------- 3:49:54 -- Toronto Marathon
Joerunner ------------ 3:54:00 -- Marathon split of a 6 hour trail race
Indie ---------------- 4:00:37 -- Boston Marathon
gostever ------------- 4:08:59 -- Erie Marathon
tidy_b --------------- 4:45:20 -- Grandma's Marathon
financeguy ----------- 4:47:29 -- Cincinnati Flying Pig Marathon

Team 6 -- 6-Pack -------------------- 78:26:29

lj2mar -----------BQ-- 2:37:46 -- Cleveland Marathon
PowerGoat ------------ 2:57:18 -- Suffolk Community College 50K (Marathon Split)
DaveL ------------BQ-- 3:01:41 -- New York City Marathon
beckster ---------BQ-- 3:06:00 -- Toronto Waterfront Marathon
Williecat --------BQ-- 3:15:28 -- Boston Marathon
ms.tiff ----------BQ-- 3:20:27 -- Toronto Waterfront Marathon
Apothecary ----------- 3:32:01 -- Boston Marathon
RunnerMomx2 ------BQ-- 3:36:48 -- Boston Marathon
pricklypear ---------- 4:59:00 -- New York City Marathon

Team 1 -- Mongrels ------------------ 79:20:55

Rundalel ---------BQ-- 3:21:50 -- Surf City Marathon
RunChuck ---------BQ-- 3:16:18 -- Air Force Marathon
Zoran ---------------- 3:25:14 -- Hangang Marathon
Rabat ---------------- 3:39:49 -- DongAh Marathon
Armadillo ------------ 3:46:39 -- Portland Marathon
Minnesotamiles ------- 3:52:00 -- Hangang Marathon
Abracadabra ---------- 3:58:00 -- Hangang Marathon
Rugbyflash ----------- 4:03:00 -- Hangang Marathon
Godogo --------------- 4:10:00 -- Lake Waramaug 50K (Marathon Split)
Arepper -------------- 4:23:26 -- 50K Trail Race
ppmcitx -------------- 5:24:39 -- Triple Crown Trail Marathon

Team 7 -- Deadly 7s ----------------- 79:51:24

George -----------BQ-- 2:48:15 -- Marine Corps Marathon
SnowStrider ------BQ-- 3:04:41 -- Green Mountain Marathon
Certifiable ------BQ-- 3:17:05 -- Lincoln Marathon
PaperTape --------BQ-- 3:38:27 -- Boston Marathon
Mooky ------------BQ-- 3:41:01 -- Wisconsin Marathon
RiverGirl --------BQ-- 3:46:25 -- Boston Marathon
easternshoregirl ----- 3:48:29 -- Mohawk-Hudson River Marathon
riverrunner ---------- 3:48:35 -- Bay State Marathon
SlowStarter ---------- 3:58:26 -- St. George Marathon

Team 5 -- High Fives ---------------- 80:11:46

Danerunsalot -----BQ-- 2:49:36 -- Ogden Marathon
Arnold -----------BQ-- 2:45:37 -- Lakefront Marathon
Kanny ------------BQ-- 3:10:49 -- Hyannis Marathon
giglenn -------------- 3:22:54 -- Rock 'n' Roll Marathon
turtle --------------- 3:34:03 -- Toronto Waterfront Marathon
Pecospeet --------BQ-- 3:36:20 -- Boston Marathon
Rase ----------------- 3:57:53 -- Houston Marathon
Balgera -------------- 4:19:27 -- Cleveland Marathon
Tresmom6 ------------- 5:17:05 -- Drake Well Marathon
Gidget --------------- 5:18:02 -- Dublin Marathon

Team 8 -- The CRAZY EIGHTS ---------- 81:33:21

RunRonRun --------BQ-- 2:54:15 -- St. George Marathon
runfree2003 ------BQ-- 3:04:15 -- New York City Marathon
elisaj -----------BQ-- 3:21:02 -- Twin Cities Marathon
rrrunner ------------- 3:46:37 -- Austin Marathon
gophergirl ----------- 3:52:01 -- Stillwater Marathon
Scolopax ------------- 3:55:47 -- Martian Marathon
huenix --------------- 4:12:13 -- God’s Country Marathon
XtremeTaper ---------- 4:38:24 -- Triple Crown Trail Marathon
RitaT ---------------- 4:56:47 -- New Mexico Marathon
LAGreg --------------- 5:25:35 -- Pasadena Marathon
Arimathea ------------ 5:26:25 -- Pasadena Marathon

Team 3 -- Thoroughbred 3's ---------- 83:32:49

SpeedySmurf ------BQ-- 2:55:14 -- Newport Marathon
davidk -----------BQ-- 3:20:21 -- Boston Marathon
runferfun ------------ 3:09:07 -- Twin Cities Marathon
SkidmoreRunner ------- 3:22:33 -- WhistleStop Marathon
JPK --------------BQ-- 3:44:37 -- Fargo Marathon
Linda Ambard --------- 4:14:33 -- Colorado Colfax Marathon
runningrobin --------- 4:42:57 -- Rock 'n' Roll Seattle Marathon
RTODD ---------------- 4:56:46 -- Delaware Marathon
Nooner --------------- 5:11:00 -- Oak Mountain 50K “PF #2” Split
Azraelcat1976 -------- 5:55:41 -- Disney World Marathon

]]> Teams Forum n3103f http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11241 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11240&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:31:54 GMT So reads the title of a very interesting article on people who run a huge number of marathons, published in, of all places, the Wall Street Journal... So reads the title of a very interesting article on people who run a huge number of marathons, published in, of all places, the Wall Street Journal today.
We have Dane on this Forum, who ran 52(?) in a year, and Barkeep, who ran one a month for a year. Anyone else run a bunch?
So QOTD--What's the most marathons you've done in a year? A lifetime (so far)? Do you have any interest in doing a really big number, say over 100?
Any 50 staters here?

And today's workout? ]]> Running Times Forum Anasazi http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11240 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11239&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:21:04 GMT Here are the results of last week's "games" . . .

Winning Team (miles) -------------- Losing Team (miles) . . .
High Fives (690.4) ---------------- The CRAZY EIGHTS (532.3)
Thoroughbred 3's (528.7) ---------- Deadly 7s (389.7)
T9! (687.1) ----------------------- 6-Pack (546.1)
X-Squad (754.3) ------------------- Masters of the Universe (737.5)
Four Play Freakshow (759.5) ------- Mongrels (363.1)
2222222222's (523.7) -------------- Bye

That's the end of the regular season.

Here are the final "standings" . . .

Place --- Team -------------------- Wins --- Losses ----- Miles .
.. 1 ---- Masters of the Universe -- 36 ------- 4 ----- 38,384.1
.. 2 ---- Four Play Freakshow ------ 33 ------- 7 ----- 37,629.9
.. 3 ---- 6-Pack ------------------- 29 ------ 11 ----- 32,582.6
.. 4 ---- X-Squad ------------------ 25 ------ 15 ----- 32,563.4
.. 5 ---- T9! ---------------------- 24 ------ 16 ----- 31,080.8
.. 6 ---- The CRAZY EIGHTS --------- 19 ------ 21 ----- 27,673.7
.. 7 ---- High Fives --------------- 18 ------ 22 ----- 31,153.9
.. 8 ---- Thoroughbred 3's --------- 18 ------ 22 ----- 28,606.6
.. 9 ---- Mongrels ----------------- 11 ------ 29 ----- 26,311.4
. 10 ---- 2222222222's -------------- 7 ------ 33 ----- 23,677.1
. 11 ---- Deadly 7s ----------------- 0 ------ 40 ----- 19,676.9



Here are next week's playoff "games" . . .

Visiting Team (avg miles) --------- vs. Home Team (avg miles) . . . . .
Masters of the Universe (834.4) --- vs. Bye
Four Play Freakshow (818.0) ------- vs. Bye
The CRAZY EIGHTS (601.6) ---------- vs. 6-Pack (708.3)
T9! (675.7) ----------------------- vs. X-Squad (707.9)

No games during Thanksgiving week, then the semi-finals the week of 11/30 and the finals the week of 12/7.

Have a good week everybody. Keep it fun and keep it healthy.

- Steve ]]> Teams Forum Barkeep http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11239 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11238&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:17:05 GMT Here are the mileage game totals for the past week . . . 1 ---- Four Play Freakshow ------- 759.5 --- 17 posts --- 44.7 miles per post -- 15... Here are the mileage game totals for the past week . . .

1 ---- Four Play Freakshow ------- 759.5 --- 17 posts --- 44.7 miles per post -- 15 weekly #1's
2 ---- X-Squad ------------------- 754.3 --- 15 posts --- 50.3 miles per post --- 4 weekly #1's
3 ---- Masters of the Universe --- 737.5 --- 17 posts --- 43.4 miles per post -- 22 weekly #1's
4 ---- High Fives ---------------- 690.4 --- 17 posts --- 40.6 miles per post --- 2 weekly #1's
5 ---- T9! ----------------------- 687.1 --- 17 posts --- 40.4 miles per post
6 ---- 6-Pack -------------------- 546.1 --- 17 posts --- 32.1 miles per post --- 3 weekly #1's
7 ---- The CRAZY EIGHTS ---------- 532.3 --- 17 posts --- 31.3 miles per post
8 ---- Thoroughbred 3's ---------- 528.7 --- 16 posts --- 33.0 miles per post
9 ---- 2222222222's -------------- 523.7 --- 17 posts --- 30.8 miles per post
10 --- Deadly 7s ----------------- 389.7 --- 14 posts --- 27.8 miles per post
11 --- Mongrels ------------------ 363.1 --- 12 posts --- 30.3 miles per post
Total Weekly Miles ------------- 6,512.4 -- 176 posts --- 37.0 miles per post

Congrats to Teams 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 11 for 100% posting. There were 11 (5.9%) missing runners this week.

Here are the Top Ten runners for the week . . .

Barkeep (11) ------------- 92.0
395guy (10) -------------- 91.4
arnold (5) --------------- 85.0 --- 20th Top Ten this year!
footloose (4) ------------ 84.0
campeona (4) ------------- 81.0
The Beast (11) ----------- 80.9
dk (9) ------------------- 79.0
vitadolce (10) ----------- 75.6 --- first Top Ten this year!
sparkyrunner (11) -------- 73.5
KevinR (4) --------------- 73.3

Congrats to arnold for 20 Top Tens. Welcome to vitadolce to the Top Ten.

Cumulative miles for the year . . .

1 ---- Masters of the Universe --- 38,384.1 - (834.4)
2 ---- Four Play Freakshow ------- 37,629.9 - (818.0) ----- 754.2 miles behind 1st
3 ---- 6-Pack -------------------- 32,582.6 - (708.3) --- 5,047.3 miles behind 2nd
4 ---- X-Squad ------------------- 32,563.4 - (707.9) ------ 19.2 miles behind 3rd
5 ---- High Fives ---------------- 31,153.9 - (677.3) --- 1,409.5 miles behind 4th
6 ---- T9! ----------------------- 31,080.8 - (675.7) ------ 73.1 miles behind 5th
7 ---- Thoroughbred 3's ---------- 28,606.6 - (621.9) --- 2,474.2 miles behind 6th
8 ---- The CRAZY EIGHTS ---------- 27,673.7 - (601.6) ----- 932.9 miles behind 7th
9 ---- Mongrels ------------------ 26,311.4 - (572.0) --- 1,362.3 miles behind 8th
10 --- 2222222222's -------------- 23,677.1 - (514.7) --- 2,634.3 miles behind 9th
11 --- Deadly 7s ----------------- 19,676.9 - (427.8) --- 4,000.2 miles behind 10th
Total Yearly Miles -------------- 329,340.4 (7,159.6)

The X-Squad is closing in on the 6-Pack for that final podium spot.

Have a good week everybody. Keep it fun and keep it healthy.

- Steve ]]> Teams Forum Barkeep http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11238 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11237&goto=newpost Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:45:29 GMT I'm looking for help compiling a list of variables that can affect a 26.2 mile run. I'm sure there's enough experience around here that we could drill down into very specific race "gotchas". Everything from foot care to solar flares is fair game. Personal stories and best practices are of course welcome.

Can you tell the taper madness is setting in? :p ]]> Running Times Forum skoozey http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11237 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11236&goto=newpost Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:17:43 GMT Thanks to everyone for their support and kind words. This is an update on my brother who collapsed at the end of the San Antonio 1/2 marathon. ... Thanks to everyone for their support and kind words. This is an update on my brother who collapsed at the end of the San Antonio 1/2 marathon.

My brother was moved out of the ICU yesterday but remains in the hospital. He will probably be released tomorrow. His kidneys have normalized, but his liver enzymes are still high and they are waiting for them to come down before he is released. It turns out that when he was admitted, he was in acute renal failure. I'm glad I didn't know that information until afterwards when things had stabalized.

I got to talk with him on the phone and he says he is feeling fine and is able to get up and walk around and eat. He told me he is more embarassed than anything else. I'm feeling very relieved now that I actually got to talk to him and he sounds like his old self.

He doesn't remember anything from the last mile of the race, which is scary. He didn't remember feeling lightheaded, sick, or even all that tired. Apparently there is video from the race and you can see him fall right before the finish and other runners helped him across the finish line, where paramedics took over. I haven't looked at the video, and I don't think I will. I can't have that image stuck in my head of my brother.

Again, thank you all for your support. These things are certainly a wake up call. Be careful out there and always listen to your body!!

Carolyn ]]> Running Times Forum mogulgirl http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11236 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11235&goto=newpost Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:18:33 GMT Congratulations to everyone for posting miles before noon on Tuesday -- 1st time I've not sent reminders out! So I'll start a weekly instead. We're 100% posted with 690 miles in 3rd place; our closest rival for the year, T9 is about 100 miles back with 3 posters to come. We'll see -- I'll update later.

Some of us are coming off fall marathons, some are still preparing for December or January ones, or going into base building for next year, or starting prep for Boston, or... QOTW -- what are your plans for your next races , through the winter.

Also, tell us how your week went last week and how it's shaping up this week. ]]> Teams Forum http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11235 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11234&goto=newpost Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:34:24 GMT Team.....................W-L....Pct........Points.....Streak

Low-Flyers..............8-2.......800....1199.32....W-2 (n3103f)
Joker's Wild.............7-3.......700....1285.90....L-1 (coleman1027)
Black Hills Buzzards...7-3.......700...1194.60....W-1 (chrissto23)
Flying Ditkas............6-4.......600...1200.45....W-3 (sfrunnerdude)
11 Angry Mice..........6-4......600....1097.00.....L-1 (JohnH)
Typhoon of Halitosis..6-4......600....1008.62.....W-3 (Bandaloop)
The 404 Errors.........6-4.......600.....932.20.....L-2 (395guy)
Johnny U's Guys.......5-5.......500....1315.68.....W-2
Corporate Sellouts....5-5.......500....1027.27.....W-3 (DarinH)
Postfontaine............4-6.......400....1092.78.....L-2 (Danerunsalot)
PowerGoats.............4-6.......400.....958.24.....L-2 (PowerGoat)
Lawrence Welkers.....3-7.......300...1100.60.....L-3
Clinton Portis...........2-8.......200....1073.85....W-1 (ErikMerk)
Lactose Intolerants...1-9.......100.....852.91.....L-7 (Eddie2)

Week 10 Results:

Clinton Portis 121.71 PowerGoats 110.05
Johnny U's Guys 129.61 11 Angry Mice 103.54
Typhoon of Halitosis 118.51 Postfontaine 94.77
Corporate Sellouts 119.05 Joker's Wild 107.47
Black Hills Buzzards 99.32 Lactose Intolerants 85.33
Low-Flyers 125.68 Lawrence Welkers 74.92
Flying Ditkas 117.53 The 404 Errors 105.08

Week 11 Matchups:

Typhoon of Halitosis vs 11 Angry Mice
Postfontaine vs Flying Ditkas
Low-Flyers vs The 404 Errors
Lawrence Welkers vs Black Hills Buzzards
PowerGoats vs Johnny U's Guys
Corporate Sellouts vs Clinton Portis
Lactose Intolerants vs Joker's Wild ]]> Running Times Forum Bandaloop http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11234 http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11233&goto=newpost Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:51:53 GMT :) Hey team! I am supposed to respond to a captain's poll representing our team's opinions.

What do you all think about redistributing the teams to get more parity?

Any other ideas, questions, or opinions? About anything or anyone? ]]> Teams Forum beckster http://runningtimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11233